1 00:00:15,288 --> 00:00:22,670 good afternoon my name is Robert solace 2 00:00:18,089 --> 00:00:24,570 in 1967 I was a first lieutenant 3 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:28,730 stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base 4 00:00:24,570 --> 00:00:35,700 Montana I was a missile launch officer 5 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:38,789 and in March on march 24th 1967 I was on 6 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:45,440 duty at what we called Oscar flight 7 00:00:38,789 --> 00:00:49,259 it is a underground capsule 8 00:00:45,439 --> 00:00:52,049 Harden's site about 60 feet underground 9 00:00:49,259 --> 00:00:53,640 we had security guards topside 10 00:00:52,049 --> 00:00:58,378 the main guard is called a flight 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:02,840 security controller my commander at the 12 00:00:58,378 --> 00:01:07,728 time was lieutenant Fred Maiwald now 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,728 Colonel retired colonel Fred my wall 14 00:01:08,510 --> 00:01:13,710 sometime in the evening hours on March 15 00:01:10,890 --> 00:01:16,259 24th I received a call from one of my 16 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:18,389 top side guards the flight security 17 00:01:16,259 --> 00:01:20,280 controller stating that they had been 18 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:23,909 observing strange lights in the sky 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:26,700 making odd maneuvers and wanted to 20 00:01:23,909 --> 00:01:30,290 report it I thought it was kind of 21 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:32,189 strange report but I took it seriously 22 00:01:30,290 --> 00:01:34,549 you have to understand we were 23 00:01:32,188 --> 00:01:36,899 protecting nuclear weapons and we 24 00:01:34,549 --> 00:01:41,159 reports we generally got were very 25 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:43,740 professional at any rate I kind of 26 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:46,079 dismissed the call he called back about 27 00:01:43,739 --> 00:01:48,149 five minutes later this time he was 28 00:01:46,078 --> 00:01:53,429 screaming into the phone saying they're 29 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:56,430 looking at an object a red glowing 30 00:01:53,430 --> 00:01:59,399 object hovering just above our front 31 00:01:56,430 --> 00:02:02,670 gate the Asajj echt was about thirty 32 00:01:59,399 --> 00:02:05,489 feet in diameter he couldn't make out 33 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:08,280 too much the details of the object only 34 00:02:05,489 --> 00:02:11,219 that it was pulsating and 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,490 and he had all the guards out there he 36 00:02:11,219 --> 00:02:17,669 was very frightened wanted me to give 37 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:19,680 him direction I think I said something 38 00:02:17,669 --> 00:02:22,459 like make sure nothing comes inside the 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:26,090 perimeter fence 40 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:29,129 he immediately hung the phone up we I 41 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:33,120 went to wake my commander Fred Maiwald 42 00:02:29,129 --> 00:02:36,030 who was taking a rest break started to 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,719 tell him about the phone call and just 44 00:02:36,030 --> 00:02:41,750 as I told him our missiles began going 45 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:44,459 into what's called a no-go condition or 46 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:47,239 unlaunchable essentially they were 47 00:02:44,459 --> 00:02:50,159 disabled when this object was still 48 00:02:47,239 --> 00:02:55,080 hovering over our site our launch 49 00:02:50,159 --> 00:02:57,120 control facility at that point we went 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:01,410 through our procedures he reported to 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:04,590 back to the command post the incident we 52 00:03:01,409 --> 00:03:06,719 also had some security lights meaning 53 00:03:04,590 --> 00:03:10,830 security incursions at some of the 54 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:14,099 launch facilities so I called the guard 55 00:03:10,830 --> 00:03:17,040 back upstairs and directed that a 56 00:03:14,099 --> 00:03:19,979 security team be sent out at this point 57 00:03:17,039 --> 00:03:25,459 the guard told me the object had left at 58 00:03:19,979 --> 00:03:25,459 high speed again silent no noise 59 00:03:25,610 --> 00:03:29,790 the security guards got out to the 60 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:32,819 launch facility and reported back that 61 00:03:29,789 --> 00:03:38,489 they were seeing this object again they 62 00:03:32,819 --> 00:03:43,048 also lost radio contact the this 63 00:03:38,489 --> 00:03:47,420 incident terminate at that point we we 64 00:03:43,049 --> 00:03:50,599 reset the the security alarms but the 65 00:03:47,419 --> 00:03:52,819 missiles themselves were still disabled 66 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:55,829 we had to call in for maintenance 67 00:03:52,819 --> 00:03:59,219 maintenance teams to come out and and 68 00:03:55,829 --> 00:04:01,290 bring them back up on alert the the main 69 00:03:59,219 --> 00:04:03,810 indication we got from our equipment was 70 00:04:01,289 --> 00:04:06,319 this was guidance and control system 71 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:06,319 failure 72 00:04:06,539 --> 00:04:13,530 I want to I want to emphasize that the 73 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:15,599 security people upstairs had no control 74 00:04:13,530 --> 00:04:19,478 authority over they had no equipment up 75 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:21,788 there no ability to affect any kind of 76 00:04:19,478 --> 00:04:26,139 system shutdown on our missiles all the 77 00:04:21,788 --> 00:04:27,610 control systems were underground we were 78 00:04:26,139 --> 00:04:30,129 relieved the next morning I reported 79 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:33,340 back to the command post I'm sorry the 80 00:04:30,129 --> 00:04:38,259 the base Nostrum reported to our 81 00:04:33,339 --> 00:04:39,909 squadron commander he was why does the 82 00:04:38,259 --> 00:04:43,150 she didn't know how to explain the event 83 00:04:39,910 --> 00:04:45,910 he asked him specifically if it could 84 00:04:43,149 --> 00:04:47,439 have been an Air Force exercise and he 85 00:04:45,910 --> 00:04:51,160 assured me that it was not an airforce 86 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:52,689 exercise there was also a member of the 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:57,460 Air Force Office of Special 88 00:04:52,689 --> 00:05:03,279 Investigations in in the room he ordered 89 00:04:57,459 --> 00:05:05,168 us to not ever talk about this I even 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:10,809 signed a nondisclosure statement to that 91 00:05:05,168 --> 00:05:16,269 effect this was and I didn't talk about 92 00:05:10,810 --> 00:05:19,329 it until 1994 I was able to come across 93 00:05:16,269 --> 00:05:22,418 a little paragraph in a book called 94 00:05:19,329 --> 00:05:24,810 above top secret by Timothy good and on 95 00:05:22,418 --> 00:05:28,418 page three on one of that book there's a 96 00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:31,509 short paragraph about missiles being 97 00:05:28,418 --> 00:05:34,839 shut down while UFOs were overhead at 98 00:05:31,509 --> 00:05:38,080 that point with the help of mr. James 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:41,079 Klotz my investigator we requested the 100 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:42,879 Air Force to send us documents about 101 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:48,008 this shutdown not mentioning the word 102 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:50,259 UFO we we did get the Air Force to 103 00:05:48,009 --> 00:05:53,169 declassify what was what we'll call the 104 00:05:50,259 --> 00:05:55,538 echo flight incident let me back up a 105 00:05:53,168 --> 00:05:58,000 little bit during the report to the 106 00:05:55,538 --> 00:05:59,620 command post my commander Fred Weil 107 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,329 turned to me and said the same thing 108 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:04,090 happened at another site that at the 109 00:06:01,329 --> 00:06:06,579 time I thought he meant that that 110 00:06:04,089 --> 00:06:08,319 evening but it turns out the same thing 111 00:06:06,579 --> 00:06:10,870 had happened a week earlier at another 112 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:18,098 site and and he was probably referring 113 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:20,379 to the echo flight at any rate at that 114 00:06:18,098 --> 00:06:23,529 point when we start when we got the echo 115 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:25,779 flight incident Declassified I was able 116 00:06:23,529 --> 00:06:27,278 to or I felt I was able to come forward 117 00:06:25,779 --> 00:06:29,288 and start talking about it because I 118 00:06:27,278 --> 00:06:31,750 thought that's where I was it wasn't 119 00:06:29,288 --> 00:06:33,060 until later I found out it was an Oscar 120 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:35,560 flight and 121 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:38,949 that dotto lay our flight had gone down 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:42,129 of ten missiles but the echo flight also 123 00:06:38,949 --> 00:06:45,699 went down about a week earlier on March 124 00:06:42,129 --> 00:06:47,949 16th we have extensive documentation on 125 00:06:45,699 --> 00:06:49,599 the echo flight incident that we 126 00:06:47,949 --> 00:06:53,170 received from the Air Force under 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:56,800 Freedom of Information Act we have the 128 00:06:53,170 --> 00:07:00,009 testimony of Walt Fiegel who was the 129 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:03,460 deputy missile crew commander at Echo 130 00:07:00,009 --> 00:07:07,500 flight we have I have a couple of 131 00:07:03,459 --> 00:07:07,500 letters from the commander Erik Carlsson 132 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:13,110 Colonel Maiwald 133 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:16,689 has I gave me a radio 134 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:20,500 I'm sorry a telephone interview about 135 00:07:16,689 --> 00:07:22,589 this in 1996 and I've got that on tape 136 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:25,300 and he's given me permission to use that 137 00:07:22,589 --> 00:07:27,669 so we've got auto wreck audio recordings 138 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:29,050 of some of these witnesses we've got 139 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:32,110 written statements we've got 140 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:36,090 documentation from the Air Force all of 141 00:07:32,110 --> 00:07:36,090 us supporting what I just told you 142 00:07:36,939 --> 00:07:39,000 you